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Remuda Ranch

**updated reviews greatly appreciated. the VA facility has closed. The ranch now has houses that specifically treat children, boys, adolescents, and adults.  there have been a number of other changes as well…


When were you there: May 2007-June 2007, 45 days!Describe the average day: Wake up at 6am to do vitals and weights, breaktfast at 7ish, an hour of free time, then groups/individual appts with therapist/psychiatrist/etc. until 12pm, meds at 12pm, lunch at 12:30pm, more groups/individual appts until 4pm, chapel at 4:30pm, supper at 6pm, and rec/equine privilege ride/free time after supper, meds at 9pm, and bedtime at 9:45pm.


What were meals like? Ate with 4-6 people and there was always a table monitor, played lots of games

What sorts of food were available or served? Pick your entree and side from two choices, food was ok.

Did they supplement? How did that system work? Feeding tubes, boost, or ensure. If you need weight restoration, some people were given the option to either consume more calories or feeding tube.

What privelages are allowed? See next question…however, no tv, magazines, radio, internet, essentially contact with the outside world, no razors, no products that list alcohol in the 1st three ingredients such as hair spray, etc. (you have to check them out from the staff), no soda, gum, etc. You can use the phone/receive calls after your first three days. Phone hours were from after chapel at 5:15pm-bedtime Monday-Friday. All day on Saturday and Sunday.

Does it work on a level system? Yes, red until you are medically cleared, yellow allows you to go to groups and be transported via “people mover”, and green gives you all privileges such as walking to groups, equine privilege ride, an hour of room time on Saturday & Sunday.

What sort of groups do they have? Art therapy, trauma group, body image, OCD, bulumic group, yoga, ropes/challenge course, canine therapy, skills, medical issues

What was your favorite group? Canine therapy, trauma group

What did you like the most? All of the other ladies and staff–24/7 love and support. My community was really positive and pro-recovery.

What did you like the least? The weekends were long with little to do.

Would you recommend this program? Absolutely, without a doubt.

What level of activity or exercise was allowed? If you were green, you had the option of going on a cardio walk 3 mornings/week, could walk to the groups/chapel, etc., and could go to the bookstore or out on a ‘restaurant challenge” If you were red, you could sit on the couch and breathe and that’s about it.

What did people do on weekends? There was usually one group on Saturday morning, there was art room time on alternating Saturdays, and if you were at a certain level, you could have 60-90 minutes of unmonitored room time on Saturday and Sunday. Optional chapel and bible study on Sunday. We watched a lot of PG-movies.

Do you get to know your weight? Not a specific number but sometimes a range such as “you are in the range you are supposed to be based on your height, etc. You could find out your weight toward the end of your stay.

How fast is the weight gain process? Slow, usually 1-2 pounds/week.

Definitely recommend Remuda; the staff, therapists, etc. are wonderful and always willing to talk. I cried every day the first week/weeks and the staff told me it would be ok, etc. Very caring. My medical concerns were addressed. Email me if you have any questions. It is hard but definitely worth it…you are worth it!


Yes, you do have the option of using supplements rather than the tube. When you are underweight at Remuda, you get the option of either the tube or supplements. When I was there, I chose the supplements rather than the tube because I was really freaked out about the idea of having one, although it seemed to me that most of the girls actually chose tubes.Even if you choose the tube, you still have to eat the standard three meals and three snacks a day, so everyone at the ranch will have to eat. The supplements and tubes are just for added calories to gain weight. As far as the supplements there, there are options such as Boost puddings, Boost drinks, Resource oats, Resource ice cream abd Resource cookies. Hope that helped some.


When were you there: June 22 – August 27, the last 3 weeks of which were at Remuda Life, not the Ranch.Describe the average day: You have 3 meals and 3 snacks a day, and groups in between. Home group is everyday, equine is once a week (twice if you get to do the Privilege Ride), and you get to do the challenge course every other week. You meet w/ ur therapist twice a week and your dietician once a week.


What were meals like? You get 3 options, breakfast is big, lunch is medium size, and dinner is the smallest. The food isnt too bad. Table games are used for distraction if the meal is hard for people to get thru.

What sorts of food were available or served? Lots of different things, from chicken and veggies and rice to pizza and sorbet.

Did they supplement? How did that system work? Yeah, depending on how much weight you need to gain, and you got supplement if you couldn’t finish a meal. The cool think about Remuda is that food is NOT for weight gain, thats what the Ensures are for.

What privelages are allowed? Priv ride, priv table

Does it work on a level system? Yeah: red, yellow, green. Red you can’t do anything, yellow you can do everything but equine, and green you can do everything available. Depending on what your weight is doing you might be put on transport meaning you can’t walk anywhere but have to ride in the “people mover” (aka golf cart)

What sort of groups do they have? home group, bulimic group, addictions group, trauma group, anxiety group, adult process group

What was your favorite group? home and bulimic, but I wasn’t in any of the others.

What did you like the most? Equine, canine therapy, and the challenge course! Especially the challenge course.

What did you like the least? Essential Tools class. Blah.

Would you recommend this program? YES it changed my life!

What level of activity or exercise was allowed? Cardio walk 2X a week if you are at you IBW. Plus you walk everywhere, do equine, and the ropes course. Swimming if you are there in the summer (but you are only allowed to swim 1 lap, and then are supposed to just hang out in the water the rest of the time but you can tread and they dont care). Oh and rec once a week sometimes gets ur heartrate up.

What did people do on weekends? Nap, hang out, watch movies, more napping. Priv ride if you are on the list, passes to go out in Wickenburg w/ staff if you are eligable.

Do you get to know your weight? Yeah, but I think it varies from person to person. They also told me my fat % and muscle mass %.

How fast is the weight gain process? I am not sure, I was already in my range when I went. I would guess 1 lb. a week or so.

What was the average length of stay? 45 to 60 days, I was there 45 and then at RLP for 3 weeks.

What was the average age range? mid twenties. Youngest 18, oldest 40ish in my community.


General info for prospective patients:
Food wise, depending on your current status, you will be started on refeeding, a very light and eaily digestivlle food, gentle, slightly more filling, or normal, which is sometimes scary, but very tasety and helps conquer food fears. THe dining room lookes like a house with extra tables. Very homey not hospital like at all

Tubeing: Its encouraged for patients who have a lot to gain as it makes it easier to deal with and helps later when you will only have to eat food

exercisë: for patients on green level, there are 20 min walks every day. THere is also a ropes course and summer swimming

Programs: art thereapy, nutrition and body image groups, goal groups, groups I cant remember, school, AMAZING chaples, therapy with amazing therapist, home groups, equine, free time, family week,this helps you heal the wounds caused by your eating disorder

Supplements: tube feeds, boost, boost pudding, resource cookies and ice cream, resource oatmeal (yummmmm!)

schedual Up at 6, bed at 9, varied schedual in between

bathrooms: monitered

rooms: share a room with three other girls, about 16-19 to a house, nurses outside door to check on you


1) There are lots of things you cannot bring, but only because of safety issues and them wanting you to focus. I’ll list some here- No: flip-flops, clothing with food or drugs/alcohol logos, glass whatsoever, metal objects, shaving rasors (you can only have electric rasors), CDs/MP3s and accessories, most books (some exceptions made by your therapist), stuffed animals (if you ask your therapist, you can get a plushy horse), anything with alcohol within the first three ingredients, blowdryers/curlers/flat irons (or they will be kept behind the desk), anything related to the ED (duh, stuff like laxatives, diet pills, diet foods), laptop computers, etc. Again, this is ONLY for safety precautions, and they provide you with things you might need, like the haircurlers and electric rasors if you don’t want to bring them. As there is no computer access, bring stationery and stamps. Also, no cell phones so bring a calling card.2) Your weight range is measured by using caliper measurements. It is catered specifically to your body, not based on BMI or “ideal” weight. It’s the most accurate way of measuring your body’s healthy weight range (besides having underwater measurement, which…obviously they can’t do).


3) Typically, the tube is offered if you are <80-85% (correct me if I’m completely wrong, guys) of ideal weight and will not do supplements. Also, they will “strongly medically recommend” that you have the tube if they don’t think you can gain the appropriate amount of weight with supplements in the allotted time you have (either 45, 60, 75, or 90 days). A lot of people think RR is tube-happy, but they use the NG tube because it has been shown in research that voluntary tubing is more effective for weight restoration. I also found it easier to separate weight gain from the tube feedings (AKA medicine) from weight gain from supplements (which I did at Remuda Life after having the tube for two months at Remuda Ranch).

3) If you are still in high school, I’m sure they will work with you to finish classwork. Talk to intake about this, as this is a sorta tricky situation. I had a friend who turned 18 while she was at Remuda adolescent programme, and she still was able to keep doing her school work in the ado programme.

4) Remuda Life is really recommended as a transition. What are some questions you have about it? Typically you stay for 30-45 days but it can be as long as 90+ days if you need it.

5) Family Week is important, but I have a friend who didn’t have her family come, and she said it was still very helpful. Another example was with me; my father didn’t come to FW, and I really wanted to get some things out in therapy with him, so instead, I talked it out with another father of one of the families in FW with us (there are typically four other families in therapy with you during FW). It was a good release, and has helped me realise that I cannot change things. Also, your therapist will call your family and explain to them the strong importance of being there for therapy if you agree to it. You can also do a phone conference with your family if they just refuse to come. I’d really recommend seeing if you can get them to come though. My mom, husband, and sister drove 9-10 hours to get to AZ, and it was pretty worth it.


What’s the food like? Snacks?
You choose one out of three choices for meals- you have 3 meals a day (6.30a, 12.30p, and around 6.45p), and 3 snacks a day. Snacks are things like trail mix (called GORP- try it, it’s soooo good), yoghurt-covered pretzels, string cheese, apple + peanut butter, banana, pudding, animal crackers, oreos, carrots + Ranch dressing, etc. Don’t let this overwhelm you at the moment; they portion out proper amounts. You are assigned a certain amount of “snack EQs (equivalents)” by your dietitian. Typically, it’s around 4-6, sometimes more if you are on weight restoration. Also, they have “metabolic additions” added to your meals if you don’t really need supplements but may need to gain a few pounds to get to your ideal weight range- they are things like an added 1/2 cup of ice cream or an added biscuit or an extra condiment, for example, during your meal. Supplements for weight restoration are Ensures, Boosts (they were phasing out the Boost puddings while I was there, but they may have brought them back), and Carnation Instant Breakfast juices. They also have snack challenges a couple times a month (I believe) where you can challenge yourself to have things like birthday cake, chips and dip, soda, etc. These snacks still count for “snack EQs.”

If you are on the tube, Do you still do snacks?
Yes. They carefully monitor your weight and make sure you are on track, so don’t worry about just gaining too much.

Do they allow passes?
You are allowed to have family visit at the Ranch during the weekend, as long as you get it approved by your team a few days in advance. Also, there are Action I and Action II passes- Action I is where you go to the Remuda bookstore (it’s in the middle of Wickenburg) and Pony Espresso (for snack); Action II is where you go on a restaurant challenge. It’s stressful, but also very fun. :) Also, you have Family Week pass on the weekend of your Family Week therapy. Then you get to actually get to go out on your own with your family!

Can you have blankets?
Only in your room due to sanitation issues and organisation. They also wanna make sure you are awake and alert during the day.

Were you there over the holidays? I’ll be there for T-Giving, Christmas & New Years,, Do they do anything special (If you know).
I was there during Christmas and New Years this last year, and we did a special snack challenge where we decourated Christmas cookies- you did have to decourate at least one cookie, but didn’t have to eat it if you didn’t want to. However, it did count as “snack EQs” if you did. Good to challenge yourself! We had a lot of fun on Christmas, and although we still had groups and therapy, we decourated in our free time. If you look through some of my photos, you’ll see that the girls and I ended up making “reindeer antler” hats that we wore all day. It was hilarious. Also, family can come visit if you give your treatment team notice and you’ll have a monitored Christmas meal that is portioned out correctly for you. :) The same goes for Thanksgiving, but I’m sure since you’ll have only been there for a couple days, you probably can’t have your family come yet. As for New Years, we had some cheesy (but hilarious) New Years “dance party.” ;) Trust me, you’ll have plenty of friends around ya to keep ya company, and it actually was one of the best Christmases I’ve ever had. :)

Are you in the general population the first few days or in a different spot?
You are in the general population. There are three communities at the AZ ranch- Palamino, Appaloosa, and Paint. Basically, the community that you’re in will be the people you do stuff with and bunk with.

Do they have CD players there?
They have a DVD/CD player in the main living space, and you can listen to music after therapy in the evening. However, they don’t have personal CD players. Also, the only music they really allow is Christian artists, because they don’t want profane lyrics, etc.

How many girls are there in the AZ home?
Well, like I said there are three communities; total, there are about…I’d say…50 girls, however, they’re separated into three groups- Paint and Appaloosa are the biggest communities (I think we were up to 17 towards the end). Palamino is smaller, due to a smaller living space. However, you will get some interaction with the other girls in different communities during certain groups and during chapel. I’ll add too that around the holiday season there are typically less girls due to people wanting to be home for the holiday, but you’ll see that after Christmas, more people will come in. :)


+When were you there? 12 December 2007-10 February 2008.

+Describe the average day:
-Wake up/throw on gown to be weighed by 5:45 (for those with NG tubes, this happens everyday except weekends, and for those without, this occurs on MWF).
-If you have medications (most do), take them at 6-6:30.
-Breakfast at ~6:40.
-Cardio walk outside (if you are in your ideal weight range), then therapy/group.
-Snack at ~10:15.
-Lunch at ~12:40.
-Snack at ~3:30.
-Phones open for weekday calls at 5, I believe.
-Chapel (M-F mandatory, no chapel on Sat, and Sun is optional) at ~5:30?
-Dinner at 6:50.
-Free time until snack at ~8:20.
-Rooms open to get ready for bed at 9.
-Lights out by 10.

+What were meals like? There are many options throughout the time you are there, and they are much better than “typical” hospital food. You are allowed to pick what you want to eat out of three meal options for breakfast/lunch/dinner, as long as you do so the day before, using their “Daily Bread” system.

+What sorts of food were available or served?
-Breakfast: Eggs, sausage, bacon, pancakes, french toast dippers with syrup, muffins with butter, tropical fruit parfait, toast, cereal, oatmeal, cream of wheat, waffles. (Allowed one cup of regular/decaf coffee or tea if you are able to completely finish your meal without supplementing.)
-Lunch: Sandwiches, soup, etc. Typical lunch food. (Allowed one cup of decaf coffee or tea if finished completely without supplementing.)
-Dinner: Chicken, lasagne, fish, sandwiches, soup, pizza, burgers. Again, typical dinner food. (Allowed one cup of decaf coffee or tea if you finish without supplementing.)
-Snacks: String cheese, carrots with dip, chips, cookies, apple with peanut butter, banana, animal crackers, cereal and milk, pudding, GORP (type of yummy trail mix), yoghurt, etc.

Did they supplement for unfinished meals/snacks? How did that system work? Yes, they did supplementing. They used Ensure (not Ensure Plus), and they had a minimum amount that they would give you, despite how much you actually had left. You could refuse the Ensure, but this would go into your record as a “refusal of programme.”

+Does it work on a level system? There are levels of Red, Yellow, and Green. It’s not based on performance, but by your medical health and progression in the programme. Red status: you always have to have the toilet flushed, cannot go to groups, etc. Yellow status: you can do practically anything and you are progressing in the programme. Green: the most lenient status, and you are allowed all privileges for the most part. Your treatment team will explain this better. There is an exception of “On Transport”: you cannot walk to groups/have to be transported in a people mover, due to low weight or medical issues.

+What sort of groups do they have? Art, Recreational, One-on-Ones with your therapist/other staff, Feelings Check, Spiritual Growth, Nutrition, Body Image, Equine, Chapel, Challenge Course (ropes and rock wall), Meal Challenges, Action Pass I and II, Form (a kind of Christian meditation/yoga) etc. One-in-Ones include: Equine, Body Image, Equine, Canine, Challenge Course, and Nutrition.

+What was your favorite group? Probably Art because I’m pretty creative and enjoyed working with our hands. Also like Canine one-on-one and Action Passes. :) Well, of course!

+What did you like the most? The entire programme was truly as amazing as they come- of course, there is a lot of hard work, and if you want recovery, you’re going to have to really WORK for it. No treatment centre is a miracle cure/fix.

+What did you like the least? Some of the staff members were a bit cooky and I didn’t like Recreational therapy.

+Would you recommend this program? Absolutely. Go the longest you can, work hard, and see if you can do their step-down residential programme at Remuda Life in Chandler, AZ.

+What level of activity or exercise was allowed? For those at their IBW, you were allowed to do Cardio Walk, which was about a 15-30 mn walk around the grounds. I was not able to do this, as I did not hit my ideal weight range while there. For those on yellow and green, you were allowed to do Form, which is a slow form of Christian yoga/meditation and Rec therapy. If you were off transport, you were allowed to walk to groups around the facility.

+What did people do on weekends? Assignments from Remuda binder, talk, watch Disney movies (G rated only), DocTalk group.

+Do you get to know your weight? No, blind weights.

+How fast is the weight gain process? ~2-3 pounds a week.

+What was the average length of stay? 45-60 days.

+What was the average age range? They have an adolescent programme and adult programme- I was at Rio Adult Programme and knew women from 18 to 63 years old.

+What kind of aftercare do they provide? Do they help you set up an OP treatment team? Remuda Life and YES.


1) Basically, during “Family Week,” your family will come and more than likely stay in the family suites accommodations the Sunday before you start the five-day therapy (+ 2 days pass). On Monday, you are transported to a separate facility everyday directly after breakfast in order to do ~8 hours of therapy with your family + a couple other families. If you choose to do so, other than family week, your family can come visit you for visiting hours on weekends, and therapists can set up teleconferences with your family as well to do more sorta “one-on-one” family therapy. It all depends on your situation, but they most certainly do not push family away if you want to involve them in your recovery.2) Okay, so, horse riding is pretty often- first you do one group session grooming them and being taught things about them/riding/saddling. If I can remember correctly, you have to be on “green status” to be able to do a ride around the grounds. Also, if you have osteopenia, they make you sign a waiver that you understand the dangers if you were to fall. If you have osteoporosis (full-blown), they typically (according to their judgment) don’t want you to ride at all. While I was there, I didn’t yet have osteopenia, but I had a broken tailbone (due to seizures from the ED before RR), so I only rode twice- once for practise, and then the second time during the Family Week rodeo (where your family comes to the facility and will watch you perform in a little cheesy but fun rodeo).


Challenge Course: Basically, this is a lot of up-in-the-air ropes courses + rock wall + zip line! It is a very fun, but scary, but challenging, but rewarding experience. :) You have to be on “yellow status” to be able to do this. If I remember correctly, you do ropes courses once a week.

*Read some of my other posts to figure out what the statuses mean.

3) Typically, when you come in, tube feeding is something your dietitian will recommend at her own discretion. It just has to do with how your team believes you will handle weight restoration and if it would be medically necessary to tube you. This means, for example, will you be able to gain the recommended weight in the time you are there using supplements (not as effective)? I have found that they typically do tubes at <80% IBW, but that is not set in stone. It’s allllll up to your team, and you don’t HAVE to take the tube, of course, since you have come voluntarily. You can always opt to do the supplements (Ensure Plus, Boost, Carnation Instant Breakfasts, metabolic additions).

4) From what I’ve heard, the VA ranch is much more laid back at the moment, due to it being a “smaller” facility. They only have one community of girls; whereas, AZ has three communities (Appaloosa, Paint, and Palomino). But basically, they follow the same guidelines, and have the same opportunities. Weather is a bit different between the two, since AZ is a cold/hot desert, and VA is well…east coast! :) Note: They cancel Challenge Course if the temperature falls below 32 degrees typically, due to frost. Also, if it is raining (and snowing if in VA, I assume) for safety precautions.

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  1. Lk

    I was at RLP for 3 1/2 weeks prior to leaving against medical advice in Aug-Sept 2014.
    I am very saddened to see that many other people had experiences just as bad as mine, however, it helps me to realize that it was flaw in the program….not me.

    When were you there: Aug-Sept 2014.

    What were the meals like: very disorganized because the patients were cooking for 12 people with 12 different meal plans, different dislikes, food allergies, all on top of disordered eating and anxiety of 12 women. I have two food allergies that I made very clear when I talked with the dietician upon admission….msg, and casseine which is the protein in milk. When I wasn’t 100% compliant, they poured a dairy based supplement down me causing me to become more I’ll which was the reason I couldn’t swallow. The day before I left, I found out they had a non-dairy based supplement that I could have had all along if I had known it was available.

    I have never cooked for 12 people nor will I ever. While they were trying to give us real life experience, it would have been more beneficial for me to learn how to cook for one or two while not being anxious.

    The games at the meal table drove me insane. I wouldn’t mind them occasionally, but I needed to learn how to have a conversation that doesn’t revolve around food at the dinner table. Conversation can also be distraction but it was never used.

    Schedule: 6:00 am-9:00 pm no access to rooms. No groups after 4:30ish. For me, I have chronic health issues and rest in the middle of the day is pertinent to my well being. I am also used to going to bed between 8:00-8:30, but by the time I got to my room, my 3 other roommates and I argued over who got the shower first. The groups would have been good if the patients had been dedicated to learning Abd participating in the groups. My therapist was decent. But I wasn’t allowed to have a dear friend who I haven’t seen since college come visit and she lived 15 min away. My family is from another state do she would have been the only visitor I could have. I found out that other patients had friends and boyfriends come and visit and they were not compliant. I was compliant and was not allowed to have visitors and was told “family only.” When my family or friends would try to call, they could never get through because there were 12 of us trying to share one phone line. Because we were always on the phone, the cordless was always dead therefore there was never privacy for my phone calls.

    I don’t feel it necessary to repeat a lot if the same info.

    What I feel is pertinent for m to share about my experience is that they jacked with my seizure medication, and my normal medication schedule. I have been very structured taking my seizure meds at the exact same times every day for nearly 20 years. They didn’t discuss increasing my seizure med to an above the limit dosage with my neurologist back at home. I ended up having multiple seizures as a result. After my third trip to the ER by ambulance, they agreed to put me back on An old med but mr neuro told me never to start at the full dose…to titrate up even if I had been off of it only for a cpl of weeks. They tried to get me to start off on the full dose. I had to advise the medical dr that is never appropriate. Also, during one of my seizures, I fell off the couch and ended up face down on the floor. Instead of the staff being trained on how to conduct a safe role, one of the patients who is an RN guided the safe roll to get me on my back.

    The last day I was there, I asked the staff person for my meds which had to be taken at a certain time. She completely ignored me. When I finally went back to get get, she slammed the med window in my face. The stress of that triggered yet another seizure and I fell off the couch again. When I spoke to the cleaning lady, she informed me that I was left on the floor for over an hour and that the staff person knew I was unresponsive because she asked me if I was going to eat breakfast. It was at that point, I decided to leave. I had gotten no therapuetic value whatsoever out of the program because of the adjustments to my medical medications without my treatment teams consent.

    I chose Ramuda because of my love for animals and I thought the equine therapy would be very healing for me. But I was continuously denied equine because of my seizures. But I would have never started having seizures if they hadn’t jacked with my meds. I also didn’t get the benefits of somatic therapy because of it.

    At one point they would not leave me unattended because of the severity of my seizures. That also meant no shower unless a staff person was present or I had a shower chair which they of course didn’t have. It took 4 days for them to make time for me to have someone present for a 5 min shower.

    I feel that all of my human rights were neglected…

  2. L

    Oh! I was there late November 2014 to early February!

  3. L

    Remuda ranch was traumatizing. Staff were lax, several girls awoled. And for a place that said they were proficient in trauma, well!!!! I was friends with some of the clients there who suffered from severe ptsd. When they disassociated the clients (me and others in the adolescent program) were left to guard them and try to bring them out of it. When I was inpatient, I saw a therapist maybe twice in twenty days. And it was extremely unhelpful. RR traumatized me. PLEASE, PLEASE do not send your child there!!!! Girls hid their mess and snorted them, staff talked about genitalia, self harm was rampant, a girl passed out for two minutes straight and they merely gave her pedialyte and took her vitals then proclaimed her fine. She purged every day with no repercussions. Staff let her in the bathroom when the hour was up even though they knew she would purge. Staff yelled. I would never recommend this place. Yes, the horses were nice, yes, it was nice and hot there and the clients had fun together. But did anyone receive true help and guidance, did anyone leave there in a better place? I can only speak for myself, but when I arrived at inpatient and the step down program, the girls there told me it was where you come not to recover, but to get worse.

  4. Kylie

    I was in adolescent inpatient on the rio site. I was there from March-May 2015, and this was my third treatment center. I would NEVER recommend this place. It was an absolute joke and waste of time and money. It was so disorganized and the staff besides maybe two were horrible and didn’t do anything. All we did was eat and sit around and watch tv. We had therapists going in and out and groups were a joke. I admit I am one to speak my mind and approached a family therapist about how she was practically verbally abusing a young girl and was told to shut up and sit my ass down, then she proceeded to tell me she despised working with me and said she cannot wait for me to leave. Totally uncalled for. When I asked to call patient advocacy was denied. Then asked to talk to the director and didn’t get to speak to her until a week and half, then nothing was done. This was a horrible treatment center both the staff and treatment. All they do is weight restore you, then let you go.

  5. Kayla

    I was asked to specify why I feel the way I do about Remuda Ranch and why one should not go there, no matter what. I will try to keep calm about the subject while explaining it because it is a difficult topic to discuss. But to sum it up in four words: Remuda ruined my life. That even could be an understatement. I went in very sick in the inpatient level of care and when I say I have never seen such a lax place about those who need intensive care, I mean it. Now, did I take full advantage of my time there at Remuda and comply 100% giving it my all? Of course not and I will be the first to admit it. However, while you are in inpatient treatment, you should be watched and not able to run for miles to the nearest town. (I was a horrible patient at times), you should not be able to climb on the roof (even if it is to see the beautiful starts), you should not be told “you’re wasting everyone’s time. Why are you even here, there are people who could use your bed”, and best of all, you should not be on 13 medications while skipping meals with no
    Repercussions, causing you to literally a go out of your mind. Finally, and we are only on inpatient still, you should never be so drugged up to where you attempt to kill yourself and are found 1.5 hours later to have it brushed off that night but then sent to the psych ward THE NEXT NIGHT. There is no proper step down, no guidance, if you don’t like male therapist you are in trouble, you can easily run away because of the amount of freedom you’re given and as an addict, getting alcohol to wash my medication down with was ideal… But very dangerous. Because the staff does not do their job with check ups it is easy to “make a run”.
    And trust me, in my ‘right mind’ with the proper medications as I am on now, I would never ever do what I did. But instead I came home at a way lower weight, addicted to 13 medicines that I’m still trying to wing off of (with the help of a good psych), and a traumatic experience being told repeatedly how much I mess up, how ungrateful I am, and how there isn’t any hope. Staff was bad. Food was bad. Treatment was bad. I am urging you, please DO NOT go there and do not send someone you love there.

  6. Michelle

    Lindsay.ch puts it really well. My experience was much like hers. I was at Remuda Ranch from March to May 2015.

    The program was highly disorganized and they were severely understaffed. At one point we had just one therapist for both houses, a total of 24 girls to one therapist and obviously none of us got therapy. They are very unprofessionally and violated hippa with me several times. A therapist in the beginning which eventually quit, she called my parents without my consent. One of he therapists there did absolutely nothing. If you’d see her in passing she would look the other way and avoid you as fast as possible! When I was getting ready to discharge the therapist wouldn’t do anything to help me with discharge stuff so they had to pull an adolescent therapist to help me and she was wonderful! This program is a joke! They were once a good program but now they are absolutely terrible. For my first three weeks I never saw a dietitian. Her sessions for me were just in passing and saying how are you? Good? Ok. Sounds good bye. For three weeks I never saw a therapist. This one girl tried o kill herself and they let her stay and did nothing because all the staff loved her. My last three weeks there we did absolutely nothing and just layed around sleeping or watching tv because we had no therapist to do groups. It was a joke. When I was about to leave and go to the airport the driver forgot to pick me up!
    my first therapist was emotionally and verbally abusive. She was very unprofessional and at one time she even said I don’t see the point of working with you. I don’t know what to do with you. There’s no point in you being here. Some things she said to me were very un-ethical .its very easy to get away with behaviors. I was struggling and threw away food a lot and I told my dietitian I was struggling and doing that and she was like ok. She was ok and alright with me doing that. Something is wrong with that!

    1. Sherry

      Michelle you are so right. This place was a nightmare. They pretty much destroyed me. Demanded I go the the Arizona Remuda for follow up or”the repercussions would be on me.”
      It was always about the money. I am so glad they shut down before they could damage anyone else. I am fine now WITHOUT their help. It took counseling at my home town to undo the feelings of worthlessness they gave me. They claimed some kind of an outrageous success rate but every single person that was there when I was there ended up with serious problems that they didn’t have going into the program. No one was a success. Only now are alot of us pulling ourselves together. I wouldn’t send my dog there!

  7. lindsay.ch

    Review of RLP from 2014 (it used to be in Chandler but it’s now in Wickenburg on the old Del Sol campus):

    When were you there (and level of care):
    I’ve been multiple times, but the most recent stay was Sept- Oct 2014, residential program, Adult

    How many patients on average?
    There were two adult houses, Mariposa and Cherokee and each had beds for 12 patients. When I was there they were both pretty full, so averaging 20 – 24 adult patients.

    Does it treat both males and females? If so, is treatment separate or combined.
    Only women.

    How often do you see a medical doctor, psychiatrist, psychologist (therapist), nutritionist, etc?
    It was pretty hard to see the doctor. She was almost never around. Psychiatrist is as needed. Most patients do one individual and one family session per week, but I didn’t do family so I did two individual sessions. You meet with your dietitian once per week.

    What is the staff ratio to patients?
    They were severely understaffed when I was there. They had a high turnover rate (they were also under new management) with a number of staff leaving while I was there. I think there were supposed to be two BHTs and a nurse present at all times, but that never happened. We had one nurse between all three houses (2 adult / 1 adolescent) towards the end. Hopefully that’s better now.

    What sort of therapies are used? (DBT, CBT, EMDR) etc?
    The main therapy they do is DBT and have a number of groups on it. There was a trauma therapist for a period of time (she later left for another job but hopefully they have another) who did EMDR and somatic stuff as needed.

    Describe the average day:

    6:30ish Wakeup

    7:15 Breakfast

    8:15 Nutrition

    9:00 DBT Skills

    10:00 Snack

    10:30 Art therapy

    12:15 Lunch

    1:00 Process Group

    3:00 Snack

    3:30 Cognitive Restructuring

    5:30 Dinner

    7:00 Therapy Assignments (Free time basically)

    8:00 Snack

    8:30 Goals group

    9:00 Free time / Bedrooms unlocked

    10:00 Lights out

    What were meals like?
    Patients are assigned meal prep groups and rotate out which group makes the meals. There is a BHT in the kitchen to help, but it sometimes got sketchy with eating disordered patients cooking.They didn’t always have the ingredients we needed on hand so we had to improvise a lot. Meal prep was stressful and that shouldn’t have been something we needed to worry about. They were trying to give us real world practice for cooking, which was good in theory, but there were lots of people who’s anxiety got out of control while making meals. Meals were almost never on time because of this. Sometimes the staff didn’t know the portions either so we were left to do our best to figure out how much each person was supposed to have.

    What sorts of food were available or served?

    It was a four week rotation of meals.

    Breakfast: cereal, parfaits, toast
    Lunch: wraps, salads, tacos, sandwiches
    Dinner: fish / chicken with rice / quinoa, salads

    Did they supplement? How did that system work?
    (see answer below)

    What is the policy of not complying with meals?
    The staff documented how much you did or didn’t eat when you were on the first level (Mariposa), but there weren’t really consequences for not finishing. You were sometimes offered supplement, but sometimes not.

    Are you able to be a vegetarian?
    Yes, but your dietitian will make you prove why you are one because it’s assumed to be eating disordered. Also, there is only one option for meals, so if you’re a vegetarian, they have to make substitutions and the patients on meal prep forgot me sometimes and I’d end up with a random veggie burger that didn’t fit with the meal at all.

    What privileges are allowed?
    Moving to the Cherokee house was what they encouraged the patients to work towards. You weren’t constantly monitored, you had bedrooms opened all day and you could go on an outing once a week (if they remembered to have transportation).

    Does it work on a level system?
    No, but Mariposa is basically Level 1 and Cherokee Level 2.

    How do you earn privileges?
    Not engaging in behaviors and showing that you’re making progress.

    What sort of groups do they have?
    Nutrition, DBT, Art, Meadows Lecture (they’re owned by the Meadows treatment center so they follow their curriculum), Body Image, Rec, Substance Recovery, Equine, 12 step, Boundaries, Relapse Prevention, Community Meetings, Process groups

    What was your favorite group?
    I enjoyed the Meadows lecture, Body Image and Boundaries the most. But honestly, I loved all of the groups there. They were really helpful.

    What did you like the most?
    The groups, the women I was there with, and the therapists there are all amazing. I also loved being in the desert. The setting was really healing. And being around horses 🙂

    What did you like the least?
    The disorganization of the program. It was really unstructured and understaffed, unlike times I’ve been there in the past. (So hopefully that will change!) I got away with a lot of behaviors there (as did many other patients) because there was no accountability with meals and staff never knew what they were doing. A lot of staff had no training in eating disorder stuff whatsoever. They left patients place when transporting them off campus and forgot about them. While some of the staff are great, there were a couple staff who made really inappropriate comments about food and weight to patients. There was one who escalated a situation with a suicidal patient and barely got reprimanded for what she did. She later had an blow up in front of patients and threw something and even after reporting her behavior, she continued to work directly with patients with seemingly no consequences. Our concerns about that staff member were dismissed because “she had been there a long time.”That felt really unsafe to me. Numerous staff quit while I was there and there was one nurse between all of the patients.

    Would you recommend this program?
    Not right now. In the past I would have, and if they fix the issues with management and staffing, I would change my mind. Because the groups are solid. The therapists and most of the treatment professionals there are solid and you can potentially get a lot out of the program. But as of last fall (again, hoping that it has changed since) the chaotic meals where no one knew what they were doing, the unprofessional actions of staff (and understaffing), and general lack of structure made it an unhelpful program. It has the potential to be amazing though.

    What level of activity or exercise was allowed?
    Your dietitian will approve you for exercise if you’re ready. You’re allowed to go to the “gym” (unsupervised) for 30 minutes or walk around campus for 30 minutes. If you do behaviors or overuse exercise or walk around too much, it will be taken away. You can also get put on transport (driven around the campus on golf carts) if they feel like you need that.

    What did people do on weekends?
    In free time: watch movies, sometimes go on outings if you’re in Cherokee, swim (if they unlock the pool).There are still groups on the weekends and one of the therapists comes up. You have a rec activity and a body movement group.

    Do you get to know your weight?
    It depends on what your dietitian thinks. My dietitian gave me my weight range and I already knew my weight when I came in.

    How fast is the weight gain process?
    I wasn’t on weight gain this last time. They don’t use tubes at RLP but they do use supplement (Ensure I think) for weight restoration.

    What was the average length of stay?
    Around a month, but it can vary depending on the person and on insurance. The most at RLP this last time was around 3 months I think.

    What was the average age range?
    It can vary. Usually 20-somethings, but women of all ages come in.

    How do visits/phone calls work?
    There is one cordless phone in each house that patients are allowed to use & you can give the number to your family & friends. It’s hard with 12 women all wanting to use one phone though. You can ask your therapist about visitors.

    Are you able to go out on passes?
    Talk with your therapist. Usually it’s for family, but you an go out on passes if your team approves.

    What kind of aftercare do they provide? Do they help you set up an OP treatment team?

    This is probably the biggest flaw in Remuda’s system in my opinion. They only offered (while I was there at least) inpatient and residential. It was up to you to come up with a plan for aftercare once you discharged. There were a number of women who left with any plan or appointments for going home. Most people I was there with went straight to outpatient. Remuda used to have an aftercare coordinator who called every few months to check in, but they don’t do that anymore. I called when I got home when my aftercare plans fell through and they basically told me, “Good luck.” You can’t have contact with your treatment team upon discharge, which can be hard. They can talk to your new team, but it can take a while for them to communicate.

    Are there any resources for people who come from out of state/country?
    Most of the people I met there were from out of state.

    Oh, Remuda. I have so many memories from Wickenburg (I was there 3 times as a teenager). I think RLP is adjusting to being on a new campus because the one in Chandler was a lot more put together in terms of structure. Hopefully things will settle in more and with better staffing it will become a program that I can support. If you do end up going, there are still amazing things you can get from it. I will always be grateful for the things i learned at Remuda.

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